perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
Petruchio
created: 2006-03-11 07:18:49

I am pleased to announce that the new server hosting perlmonk.org is ready for business. If you had an account on the old system, or you'd like a free Linux account, email either jcwren@perlmonk.org or petruchio@perlmonk.org. I am about to leave town for the day, so if you write me soon there may be a delay in account creation.

jc managed to recover a lot of the old user directories. If yours was rescued, it should automatically be in your new directory upon account creation. If it's not... you can ask about it, but it's probably gone.

Please read POLICY and README.

By the way, jcwren, last I spoke to him of it, still hadn't come close to recouping his expenses. If you want to contribute, see perlmonk.org Upgrade/Downtime Update for details. If he breaks even, I'll let folks know.

Re: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-11 08:50:20
Why?
Re^2: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-11 09:22:24
Reportedly, because.

Jeff japhy Pinyan, P.L., P.M., P.O.D, X.S.: Perl, regex, and perl hacker
How can we ever be the sold short or the cheated, we who for every service have long ago been overpaid? ~~ Meister Eckhart
Re^2: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-11 09:23:09
node 174051

;-)

Re^3: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-11 09:35:14
I think the problem is that dragonchild is suffering from a Lack of Perl. The symptom: not enough context.

Jeff japhy Pinyan, P.L., P.M., P.O.D, X.S.: Perl, regex, and perl hacker
How can we ever be the sold short or the cheated, we who for every service have long ago been overpaid? ~~ Meister Eckhart
Re^3: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-11 10:23:15
My question was completely effective, especially given that you know what my 'Why?' refers to. So, what's the answer? I have no desire to read through "He-said-She-said" for 100 pages. Please give me the skinny as to why you registered a mispelling and created a competitor site. From where I'm sitting, this looks like a petty act of "Nyahnyah". I'd like to think I'm wrong, though.

My criteria for good software:
  1. Does it work?
  2. Can someone else come in, make a change, and be reasonably certain no bugs were introduced?
Re^4: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-11 10:32:13
I've never used perlmonk.org before, but from the nodes I've followed since I've registered, it seems that perlmonks.org and perlmonk.org are not competitors but work in parallel, as in perlmonk.org offers services that perlmonks.org doesn't and vica versa.

Personally, I think it is quite useful in case someone wants to store Perl Monks related material at a place where it is related to the site.

Oh, and I think it is not a misspelling to use perlmonk.org - it is functionally different from perlmonks.org because here the emphasys is on the community thus it's perlmonks - there the emphasys is on the user's own services place - thus perlmonk.org.
Re^5: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-11 10:36:42
Thank you for clarifiying this. Please see my update to the original response.

My criteria for good software:
  1. Does it work?
  2. Can someone else come in, make a change, and be reasonably certain no bugs were introduced?
Re: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-11 10:58:42

Allow me to clarify (although I thought dragonchild should have been around long enough by now to realize what's going on).

perlmonk.org is not a "site" per se, but a server. I provide Unix shell accounts, Perl, PHP, Ruby, C, etc, web services and databases (mySQL and postGres). There are no charge for these accounts, and reasonable terms of use (no p0rn, no commercial ventures, no serving warez or mp3s).

Many perlmonks.org users don't have access to a Unix shell account. Many others cannot design and host websites because of ISP restrictions, cost reasons, or an extremely thin pipe (think dialup).

perlmonk.org is an Athlon-64 2800+ CPU with a gig of memory, 250GB of disk, and is hung on a T1 provided by a friend of mine at no charge (we don't have the full T1, as it's his VoIP line at home). I restrict most accounts to 25MB a day web traffic, and generally request that people try to keep their disk usage reasonable.

perlmonk.org does not "compete" with perlmonks.org, because there's nothing to "compete" about. They are completely disconnected in functionality.

I've been providing this service for almost 5 years. For several years, I paid for an ISDN line for the server, and provided all the server equipment. ar0n (a long lost user) provided the first donation, a 60GB Maxtor that dies in December 2005. A handful of generous people have answered the call for financial donations to cover the new server equipment, although I'm still a little in the hole on it (normally I'd pay for it and not worry about it, but contract gigs have been tight, and the wallet is thin).

Petruchio is my co-manager of the server, and has been exceedingly helpful in configuring the new server, and managing some of the more distasteful aspects (namely, postGrosspostGres).

So there you have the real info, straight from the horses mouth. Or his keyboard. Or whatever.

--jc

e-mail jcwren

Re^2: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-12 15:49:43

Just a suggestion: if the default page one gets upon visiting http://perlmonks.org contained that same information, people like dragonchild who don’t know about it could find out simply by visiting. (I believe the old site had that, so I assume that this will be rectified as you find the tuits for it.)

Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-13 04:42:12

Is this the system that hosted tinymicros.com which provided the PerlMonks stats? If so, is it anticipated that tinymicros will return, or has it gone to the great bit bucket in the sky?


DWIM is Perl's answer to Gödel
Re^2: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-13 23:36:16

No, it's up. Apparently apache blew it's brains out on the vhost that serves the outside world. The local vhost was running fine, so I didn't realize there was a problem. I restarted apache, and all is well.

--jc

e-mail jcwren

Re: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-13 22:59:32
Petruchio++, jcwren++ A truly great deal, empowering the meaning of the word "community" =) Thanks guys!
Re: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-14 01:30:10
jcwren responded very quickly to my request for an account at perlmonk.org. Navigating around has been fairly self-explanatory so far.

I appreciate the opportunity to build a website and practice my coding and site management skills without having to cough up for monthly fees.

Thanks, guys....
Re: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-16 19:03:54
What is the new rsa key fingerprint?
Re^2: perlmonk.org II: Son of Perlmonk
created: 2006-03-24 07:01:28
perlmonk.org maps to 199.5.193.8
The server's host key is not cached in the registry. You
have no guarantee that the server is the computer you
think it is.
The server's rsa2 key fingerprint is:
ssh-rsa 2048 50:1e:cc:c1:17:04:77:f4:d0:fe:ca:11:0f:f0:0f:0f
If you trust this host, hit Yes

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