Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only) (tphyahoo)

Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

tphyahoo

created: 2006-01-20 11:10:59

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prlmnks

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I had a simple idea that might enhance help new users learn perlmonks formatting. Have an "examine post source" link next to every post. This would of course be view only, not edit. But it would enable new users to quickly learn to use "code" and readmore, and the rest of it. Even after a year, there are some forms of markup that slip my mind: eg, how to do open and close angle brackets, and references to the perl documentation. If there was a link to every post, you could learn this a lot faster and organically.

Just thought I'd through that out!

Re: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

ambrus

created: 2006-01-20 11:16:27

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prlmnks

There's an "xml" view link above every node.

Re^2: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

blazar

created: 2006-01-20 11:32:44

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prlmnks

But that will report the text with entities already escaped. I think he wants the "source" of each post exactly like the author sees it...

Re: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

created: 2006-01-20 11:33:50

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prlmnks

re "view xml":
This node contains a random sample of pm formatting

this is code...line 1
and line 2...
and a last line of 'code'

[ inside (non-linking) square_brackers ]:

and inside [id://524496] brackets linking to an op (not selected for relevance)

Now, scroll up to the top of this page and try the xml link
(:<{)

Re^2: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

demerphq

created: 2006-01-20 14:38:37

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prlmnks

Thats a bug. Its not clear where from but I intend to find out.

---
$world=~s/war/peace/g

Re^3: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

created: 2006-01-20 15:13:14

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prlmnks

........erhhhhh

/me seeks mechanic for adjustment of brain.

ABSOLUTELY! Dear, gentle future readers: please note demerphq's wisdom and if you wish to see the xml of the sample stuff above, please view the thread, not the node.

RULE NUMBER 1: Think, rethink, twist ambiguities around in you mind... and THEN, AND ONLY THEN (after after thinking some more) speak!

Re: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

blazar

created: 2006-01-20 11:41:34

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prlmnks

Occasionally I've desired this for a better quoting. Generally I just copy and paste with the mouse. Personally I don't see any particular risk with such a thing in any case, since what gets written in the code source is public in any case - that is: I know about e.g. tags, but they can be revealed anyway. I can live without this feature, but it wouldn't be bad to have it available...

Re: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

tinita

created: 2006-01-20 13:22:28

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prlmnks

i would like this feature, mainly for quoting. if i quote text wich contains tags, i can't copy them.
cool would be a button beside the 'preview' button that inserts the original text into the textarea with 'blockquote' tags around.

Re^2: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

Aristotle

created: 2006-01-20 16:21:24

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prlmnks

Heres a tip: in Firefox, you can select something on the page, then pick View Selection Source from the contetx menu, and youll get a source view window where the bits you selected on the page are also selected. Nice and easy for copying.

Makeshifts last the longest.

Re^3: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

tinita

created: 2006-01-21 07:11:38

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prlmnks

you mean if i view the source of a post with firefox i can see tags like <code> and <spoiler>? how would firefox know about these tags?

if somebody posted:
post-increment <code>$i++</code> is blahblah
i would like to copy & paste exactly this source.

Re^4: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

Aristotle

created: 2006-01-21 09:42:15

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prlmnks

I didnt say that. Its just a way to get marked up text, and even if you have to change one or two tags from raw HTML to their PM equivalents, thats much less painful than it would be to copy-paste only text and mark it up from scratch. For cases where youd have to fix up a lot of markup, the extra step of going through the XML displaytype pays off.

Makeshifts last the longest.

Re: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only)

ysth

created: 2006-01-22 06:27:59

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prlmnks

I had quite some time ago planned to have a displaytype=bare that would do that. Maybe I should get back to it.

Re^2: Perlmonks idea: Examine post code (view only) ('bare')

tye

created: 2006-01-22 12:15:16

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prlmnks

'bare' is already assigned and it isn't a displaytype, so let's not overload that term.

Besides, 'bare' doesn't fit well. 'source' would be better. Or 'input' or 'asentered' or 'rawtext'...

Note that whether you get nodelets etc. around this would be separately controlled (by 'style=bare' or not).

- tye