Dreaming of its own Monastery
dfaure
created: 2004-06-15 10:34:57

Before all, I'm very proud having become Monk today, and wish to thank all the one I could have helped with my humble contributions here. ;-)

The more time I spend dwelling into the Monastery pages, the more I would like to contribute to the edifice itself. I (shyly) made some suggestions, but in order to make constructive comments, I would like to have something at home to test and improve my ideas before submitting them.

I started looking at http://everydevel.com/, node 31092 and http://perlmonks-mods.sourceforge.net/, but reading 'node 295865' node made me doubt...
...so my request:

Is there a mean having access to PM actual code?

HTH, Dominique
Re: Dreaming of its own Monastery
BUU
created: 2004-06-15 16:48:23
Perlmonks is closed source, the only way to get access is to submit a petition to the gods.
Re^2: Dreaming of its own Monastery
created: 2004-06-16 01:43:04
After you reach level 8.

MJD says "you can't just make shit up and expect the computer to know what you mean, retardo!"
I run a Win32 PPM repository for perl 5.6.x and 5.8.x -- I take requests (README).
** The third rule of perl club is a statement of fact: pod is sexy.
Re^3: Dreaming of its own Monastery
created: 2004-06-16 03:56:47
After you reach level 8.

So I now know how long I should improve before being able to read the code of gods...
[a bit disappointed, but nevermind]

HTH, Dominique
Re^3: Dreaming of its own Monastery
created: 2004-06-17 18:40:06
Even pmdevils don't have access to gods-only code (e.g. restricted_superdocs).
Re: Dreaming of its own Monastery
created: 2004-06-16 12:57:43

Hi Dominique.

While im not so sure where PodMaster got that bit about level 8 (which doesnt mean hes wrong either) I do agree that you are a touch fresh here to join pmdev just yet. You have to understand that the PM code in some areas is a bit of a mess. Its not always clear that everything that should be locked away and secured properly has been so we are somewhat reluctant to let folks join without a proven track record. This shouldnt be seen a reflection on yourself of course, but the fact is we have to be conservative with things for obvious reasons.

Now, I personally would encourage you not to be disappointed nor to give up hope. I (and no doubt other gods as well) will keep an eye on your postings and especially any feature requests or other ideas you have. Once folks are comfortable with things youll receive a /msg asking if you are still interested.

I can say that if you post your ideas and the community likes them and consistantly shows it with good votes for those ideas youll get invited in sooner than later.

May I point an another area of the monastery where we would very much appreciate your efforts but wouldnt have to wait? If you were willing to help translate the site docs into french it would be much appreciated. We have portuguese but no french (or russian or spanish or ....).

Thanks for your interest it is certainly appreciated and hasn't gone unnoticed.


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demerphq

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
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Re^2: Dreaming of its own Monastery (level 8)
tye
created: 2004-06-16 23:12:47

You need to be level 8 in order to have a decent feel for how PM works in order to write changes that 'fit'. Getting to level 8 often happens fast enough that it still isn't enough experience with using the site.

Of course, gods don't have to follow the policy of other gods.

And if someone wants to join pmdev, then I think they'd do good to grab a copy of Everything and get a feel for how it works, which doesn't require even a single PM XP.

And I've closed security holes as recently as last week, some rather serious. So, much of PM's code still isn't going public until after that security audit happens.

- tye        

Re^3: Dreaming of its own Monastery (level 8)
created: 2004-06-17 03:14:14

Ok, i'm cool with that policy, i just dont remember seeing it written down anywhere. But of course it probably is and i just dont remember. Ill follow that policy from now on.


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demerphq

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
    -- Gandhi


Re^4: Dreaming of its own Monastery (level 8)
created: 2004-06-17 05:23:51

[replying to several up-nodes]

...you are a touch fresh here to join pmdev just yet. You have to understand that the PM code in some areas is a bit of a mess. Its not always clear that everything that should be locked away and secured properly has been so we are somewhat reluctant to let folks join without a proven track record. This shouldnt be seen a reflection on yourself of course, but the fact is we have to be conservative with things for obvious reasons.

So would I do as you!. It's true that my writeups are the only available elements you may consider and my XP more or less reflects my perl level (aren't we here to improve?). I may also perhaps have more talked about myself on my homenode.

...if someone wants to join pmdev, then I think they'd do good to grab a copy of Everything and get a feel for how it works, which doesn't require even a single PM XP.

So do I!

May I point an another area of the monastery where we would very much appreciate your efforts but wouldnt have to wait? If you were willing to help translate the site docs into french it would be much appreciated. We have portuguese but no french (or russian or spanish or ....).

As I said in my initial post, I would really enjoy to contribute to the edifice itself and if perl is the raw material of monastery walls, no doubt that a touch of french paint on it could be great :-).

I apply for the job.

NB: you should be aware that my french writing are not known for their language level quality (I'm only a programmer), but:

  • My french can't be poorer than my english,
  • I'm sure other frenchy monks could help me with constructive remarks,
  • I promise doing my best.
HTH, Dominique

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